The problem with F/OSS office suites is that their audience tends to be uncritical, so much as in the fairy tale "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" (but in inverse), professionals have stopped listening.
I remember at least three incidents where I was instructed to evaluate Open Office, Libre Office or other F/OSS word processing or layout packages. In each instance, the F/OSS products fell short in fundamental ways, and were a total disaster for larger documents. Their main strength was that it was often easier to ex
That's on the network with several hundred people sharing documents through Sharepoint, with some of them using Office 2007, and some using Office 2010. So, yes, different computers/printers.
I have been turned down for work because my resume looked like crap on their computers but fine on mine.
I switched back to Windows and Office and never looked back after that. IN the business world where you survive on 10% margins of profit a loss of a supplier, customer, or a good employee can have a staggering impact. When you hear on the phone sorry I have Xoffice people will think you are incompetent. It is like saying I do not have email or a fax number. I have a zigatron instead.
So your using ms office 2010 or something? Legacy formats of MS are better supported in OO or LO than in their later products. At least, that's my experience.
1) I want better support for indexes. And in specific I want to be able to maintain several DIFFERENT indexes in the same document. (Think Alphabetic index, index of dates, index of places, etc.)
2) I want bettersupport for tables of contents. And in specific I want to be able to have several different tables of contents in the same document. (Think Table of contents, list of figures, etc.)
The difference between tables of contents and indexes is that indexes are sorted by name. Tables of contents by
Let me tell you that, as a developer, you are exactly the type of person I want writing feature requests and bug reports. Those are all necessary or neat features, and your descriptions are good. It's a shame LO doesn't have a feature request section or a task list of requested features being implemented (just check https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/ [libreoffice.org] , I didn't see it).
I mean honestly the only rebuttial I could provide would be for 2 + 3, which would be to use documentation/guide generation tools - b
You want LaTeX. Take a look at LyX if you haven't already -- it'll make getting started really easy.
For the quarter-fold cards, check out the rotating package.
Just FYI, I found an easy way to create quarter fold cards in LibreOffice. Create two new paragraph styles (e.g. French Fold Inside, French Fold Outside). Modify the styles and, under the 'position' tab, set the rotation to 90 degrees for the outside, and 270 degrees for the inside. You can make a card now by simply setting the page orientation to
Well, I looked at LaTex via KLyx awhile ago, and it wasn't what I want. Sorry. Mainly I want things to work the way they work in Open/Libre Office. I just want a few extensions.
I do agree that LaTex can do what I want. So can Scribus, and I don't want to use that, either. And Scribus wouldn't require and extensive learning curve.
OTOH, I may be being unfair. It was quite awhile ago that I looked at KLyx (which I'm assuming is the same program as LyX). So I'll give it another look, just to be certain.
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The problem with FOSS office suites (Score:5, Interesting)
The problem with F/OSS office suites is that their audience tends to be uncritical, so much as in the fairy tale "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" (but in inverse), professionals have stopped listening.
I remember at least three incidents where I was instructed to evaluate Open Office, Libre Office or other F/OSS word processing or layout packages. In each instance, the F/OSS products fell short in fundamental ways, and were a total disaster for larger documents. Their main strength was that it was often easier to ex
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Speaking of crying wolf,
can you list any of the major issues that made OO or LO a no-go? (pun not intended)
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Re:The problem with FOSS office suites (Score:2)
This. I can't name a single feature that I need for business use that is not included in LO. I really wonder why parent is rated 5 Interesting.
Re:The problem with FOSS office suites (Score:4, Insightful)
try this with MSO2009 and MSO2007 and see if it works
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What, exactly, is "MSO2009"?
If you meant Office 2007 and 2010, then it works just fine.
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on different computers?? (not counting Clone systems) with different default printers??
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That's on the network with several hundred people sharing documents through Sharepoint, with some of them using Office 2007, and some using Office 2010. So, yes, different computers/printers.
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Word 2007 is perfectly capable of reading and editing .doc documents, and as far as I know, Openoffice can read and edit both .doc and .docx.
Your objection is a non issue.
Re:FOSS is not compatible with doc/docx (Score:1)
I have been turned down for work because my resume looked like crap on their computers but fine on mine.
I switched back to Windows and Office and never looked back after that. IN the business world where you survive on 10% margins of profit a loss of a supplier, customer, or a good employee can have a staggering impact. When you hear on the phone sorry I have Xoffice people will think you are incompetent. It is like saying I do not have email or a fax number. I have a zigatron instead.
We got into similar ar
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So your using ms office 2010 or something?
Legacy formats of MS are better supported in OO or LO than in their later products. At least, that's my experience.
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OK.
1) I want better support for indexes. And in specific I want to be able to maintain several DIFFERENT indexes in the same document. (Think Alphabetic index, index of dates, index of places, etc.)
2) I want bettersupport for tables of contents. And in specific I want to be able to have several different tables of contents in the same document. (Think Table of contents, list of figures, etc.)
The difference between tables of contents and indexes is that indexes are sorted by name. Tables of contents by
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Let me tell you that, as a developer, you are exactly the type of person I want writing feature requests and bug reports. Those are all necessary or neat features, and your descriptions are good. It's a shame LO doesn't have a feature request section or a task list of requested features being implemented (just check https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/ [libreoffice.org] , I didn't see it).
I mean honestly the only rebuttial I could provide would be for 2 + 3, which would be to use documentation/guide generation tools - b
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You want LaTeX. Take a look at LyX if you haven't already -- it'll make getting started really easy.
For the quarter-fold cards, check out the rotating package.
Just FYI, I found an easy way to create quarter fold cards in LibreOffice. Create two new paragraph styles (e.g. French Fold Inside, French Fold Outside). Modify the styles and, under the 'position' tab, set the rotation to 90 degrees for the outside, and 270 degrees for the inside. You can make a card now by simply setting the page orientation to
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Well, I looked at LaTex via KLyx awhile ago, and it wasn't what I want. Sorry. Mainly I want things to work the way they work in Open/Libre Office. I just want a few extensions.
I do agree that LaTex can do what I want. So can Scribus, and I don't want to use that, either. And Scribus wouldn't require and extensive learning curve.
OTOH, I may be being unfair. It was quite awhile ago that I looked at KLyx (which I'm assuming is the same program as LyX). So I'll give it another look, just to be certain.