by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Monday August 26, 2013 @06:57PM (#44681289)
Hadoop was based on Google code. Solr was based on CNET's code. I can't really think of much that has come out of the Apache Foundation that is 100% homegrown open source and has a steady, active, mature development cycle. Instead it's all fluff and it just feels like to me that unless you're one of the top 20 Open Source software projects out there, that nothing new is coming across.
Anyone else wonder if this has something to do with App Markets and the ease of which one can make money?
Anyone else wonder if this has something to do with App Markets and the ease of which one can make money?
I'm not sure it can all be blamed on app markets, but in part that could have an effect. In that scenario, given that the code is free the ability to make money is really based on marketing. People will pay a couple of dollars to save them the hassle of pulling down the source, building it on their PC and then uploading that to their phones but anybody can do that and in the end the best marketer will win out. Of course then there is also the person who is happy to publish the binary for free (no cost) whic
I can't really think of much that has come out of the Apache Foundation that is 100% homegrown open source [...]
...including, I might add, Apache HTTPD.
Of all of the complaints which could be levelled at the Apache Foundation, this one has to be the least relevant. One of the roles that TAF plays is as a place where you can send your code (as long as it's useful and falls under their purview) to ensure that it's looked after.
"I can't really think of much that has come out of the Apache Foundation that is 100% homegrown open source and has a steady, active, mature development cycle."
So what? Why do you have this fixation on 100% homegrown code (whatever that is)?
100% homegrown code = reinventing the wheel = stupidity.
What does it matter? No one starts from scratch these days. It's just not necessary and frankly it's a fucking waste of time. Open Source won. There's so fucking much of it out there it makes no sense to not reuse it if it lines up with your licensing dogma. It's normal to reuse code these days. It's ok if the baker doesn't mill its own wheat.
What are you trying to say? That Hadoop doesn't add value over Google's original code despite their huge following (which includes Google BTW)?
Giv
Were there fewer fools, knaves would starve.
- Anonymous
Name me some quality Apache products (Score:1, Troll)
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Solr, hadoop, activemq?
Seriously.
Re:Name me some quality Apache products (Score:1)
Hadoop was based on Google code. Solr was based on CNET's code. I can't really think of much that has come out of the Apache Foundation that is 100% homegrown open source and has a steady, active, mature development cycle. Instead it's all fluff and it just feels like to me that unless you're one of the top 20 Open Source software projects out there, that nothing new is coming across.
Anyone else wonder if this has something to do with App Markets and the ease of which one can make money?
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Anyone else wonder if this has something to do with App Markets and the ease of which one can make money?
I'm not sure it can all be blamed on app markets, but in part that could have an effect. In that scenario, given that the code is free the ability to make money is really based on marketing. People will pay a couple of dollars to save them the hassle of pulling down the source, building it on their PC and then uploading that to their phones but anybody can do that and in the end the best marketer will win out. Of course then there is also the person who is happy to publish the binary for free (no cost) whic
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Hadoop is in no way based on Google code. It is just based on Google paper and theory.
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Of all of the complaints which could be levelled at the Apache Foundation, this one has to be the least relevant. One of the roles that TAF plays is as a place where you can send your code (as long as it's useful and falls under their purview) to ensure that it's looked after.
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"I can't really think of much that has come out of the Apache Foundation that is 100% homegrown open source and has a steady, active, mature development cycle."
So what? Why do you have this fixation on 100% homegrown code (whatever that is)?
100% homegrown code = reinventing the wheel = stupidity.
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Hogwash.
What does it matter? No one starts from scratch these days. It's just not necessary and frankly it's a fucking waste of time. Open Source won. There's so fucking much of it out there it makes no sense to not reuse it if it lines up with your licensing dogma. It's normal to reuse code these days. It's ok if the baker doesn't mill its own wheat.
What are you trying to say? That Hadoop doesn't add value over Google's original code despite their huge following (which includes Google BTW)?
Giv